Permute is a quick image, audio, and video converter. You can use it for files of all formats because Permute can convert anything into anything (almost). For water to water-to-wine conversion, you’d have to refer to other authorities, but media files can become whatever format you need them to. Plus, Permute also has some additional goodies like merging two videos into one or adding a subtitle track.
I’ve used @Permute forever (I hunted Permute 3.0 seven years ago!!), so I was nervous but hopeful about @charlie_monroe's promise that “everything changed but you’ll still feel at home”.
After beta testing it for a while leading up to launch, I can confirm that he was right.
This isn’t a shiny-new-app launch so much as a deep refactor of a Mac workhorse: rewritten UI using Apple’s newer frameworks, better presets for modern hardware, cleaner cropping, stronger metadata handling, and Workshop folded back into the main window as file actions.
Also: RIP DVD authoring. 📀😅
I don't even remember the last Mac I bought with an optical disk drive — which is why I'm glad that Charlie's still maintaining this app — now there's less tech debt, fewer weird legacy branches, and a much more comfortable home for the stuff people actually use Permute for now.
the water to wine bit in the description is the kind of copy that tells you this was written by someone who actually enjoys their work. four launches on the same product over multiple years suggests a user base that keeps coming back and recommending it. that kind of quiet loyalty is harder to build than a viral launch
I’m telling you, Charlie and his apps are life savers through and through. I have a folder on my desktop called “Permuted, Baby” that is THICK w/ output!
A couple of weeks ago I was having some issues with being on an Intel Mac downloading the new Permute through Setapp and there is a quirk where it says only Silicon. Was bumming big time because I thought I would be w/out my media munching homie, so I sent the dev a long shot email and he responded really fast and was super righteous to help walk me through how to get Permute 4.0 rocking on an Intel.
Also, as someone who dabbles in mixed media DJ’ing, his other app Downie is awesome and has allowed me to put together some really fun music and video sets.
Appreciate you!
the preset layer is the part i'd sweat most — abstracting formats is easy, but hiding whether a job hits videotoolbox or falls back to software is where the speed/quality surprises come from.
The @Permute tool will be useful on my design projects. Will it be able to handle conversion to and from SVG format vector graphics?
Have never had one clean tool for all my media conversions on Mac, usually I juggle three. A full rebuild that still feels at home is the hard kind to pull off, nice work. For batch jobs, can you save a conversion preset and just drop files onto it later, or do you set it up fresh each time?
About Permute 4.0 on Product Hunt
“The ultimate media converter for macOS”
Permute 4.0 launched on Product Hunt on June 14th, 2026 and earned 207 upvotes and 8 comments, earning #3 Product of the Day. Permute is a quick image, audio, and video converter. You can use it for files of all formats because Permute can convert anything into anything (almost). For water to water-to-wine conversion, you’d have to refer to other authorities, but media files can become whatever format you need them to. Plus, Permute also has some additional goodies like merging two videos into one or adding a subtitle track.
Permute 4.0 was featured in Mac (103.5k followers), Photo & Video (2k followers) and Video (1.9k followers) on Product Hunt. Together, these topics include over 14.9k products, making this a competitive space to launch in.
Who hunted Permute 4.0?
Permute 4.0 was hunted by Chris Messina. A “hunter” on Product Hunt is the community member who submits a product to the platform — uploading the images, the link, and tagging the makers behind it. Hunters typically write the first comment explaining why a product is worth attention, and their followers are notified the moment they post. Around 79% of featured launches on Product Hunt are self-hunted by their makers, but a well-known hunter still acts as a signal of quality to the rest of the community. See the full all-time top hunters leaderboard to discover who is shaping the Product Hunt ecosystem.
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Chris Messina
I’ve used @Permute forever (I hunted Permute 3.0 seven years ago!!), so I was nervous but hopeful about @charlie_monroe's promise that “everything changed but you’ll still feel at home”.
After beta testing it for a while leading up to launch, I can confirm that he was right.
This isn’t a shiny-new-app launch so much as a deep refactor of a Mac workhorse: rewritten UI using Apple’s newer frameworks, better presets for modern hardware, cleaner cropping, stronger metadata handling, and Workshop folded back into the main window as file actions.
Also: RIP DVD authoring. 📀😅
I don't even remember the last Mac I bought with an optical disk drive — which is why I'm glad that Charlie's still maintaining this app — now there's less tech debt, fewer weird legacy branches, and a much more comfortable home for the stuff people actually use Permute for now.